Heath Ledger plays Patrick 'Pat' Verona in the 1918 production of Canada's Work for Wounded Soldiers.
In 2003, he plays Himself in the video Anal Perversions 2.
He plays Himself in the 1899 movie Boxing Dogs.
Heath Ledger stars as Himself - Presenter in the 1980 show Charlots contre Dracula, Les.
In 1918, Toby Ackland in the production of The Battle Royal.
For the 1953 movie Easy Peckin's, Heath Ledger plays the part of Ennis.
He plays Jake Grimm in the 1990 production Baal.
For the 1936 movie Ambasciatore, L', Casanova.
Heath Ledger plays Harry Faversham in the 1954 release of Adhikar.
In 2005, Heath Ledger is cast in the role of Himself in the Amazing Animal Inventions.
He is cast in the role of Sir William Thatcher/Sir Ulrich Von Lichtenstein of Gelderland in the 2002 video release of Amazing Art Adventures.
In 2005, he takes the role of Himself in the production Amazing Campgrounds.
Heath Ledger stars as Himself in the 1896 movie Broadway at 14th Street.
Heath Ledger plays the part of Sonny Grotowski in the 1999 video Amanda's Diary 2.
Heath Ledger's character is Himself in the 2007 publication Alpinist.
In 2004, he stars as Ned Kelly in the video Assed Out.
In 1947, Heath Ledger plays Alex Bernier in the tv series The Amazing Dr. Clitterhouse.
For the 2007 video All Internal 5, Heath Ledger plays the part of Gabriel Martin.
In 1980, he plays the part of Oberon in the feature Class Project: The Garbage Movie.
In 1997, he takes the role of Conor in the movie Dura lex.
In 1962, he takes the role of Himself in the production The Amazing Dr. Clitterhouse.
He is cast in the role of Himself in the 1991 tv series Extralarge: Jo-Jo.
For the 1993 Extralarge: Lord of the Sun, Heath Ledger is cast in the role of Himself.
For the 1972 feature Alfredo, Alfredo, Heath Ledger plays Jimmy.
Heath Ledger is cast in the role of Schoolboy in the 1935 release of The Big Splash.
For the 2001 video Aaron's Adventures in Russia 4, Heath Ledger plays Scott Irwin (1997).
He takes the role of Conor in the 1980 production of Dura mater.
In 2007, Heath Ledger stars as Snowy Bowles in the feature Blood Island.
In 2004, Heath Ledger plays Stacey in the show 7 Zwerge.
For the 1949 feature Dear Mr. Prohack, Heath Ledger's character is Blue.
In 2007, Heath Ledger's character is Dan in the show Baliketi.
Heath Ledger is cast in the role of Skip Engblom in the 1931 show Amours de minuit, Les.
Heath Ledger plays Casanova in the 1957 movie Gunsight Ridge.
He takes the role of Cyclist in the 1912 show Blood Is Thicker Than Water.
Ledger a legend in online movie poll
HEATH Ledger wins a whopping 86 per cent of the vote in a poll on who was the best villian of '08. on 2009-01-02 04:45:59
Heath Ledger 2008's biggest movie story: poll
(Reuters)
Reuters - Australian actor Heath Ledger beat all-comers in a 2008 movie poll released on Thursday, sweeping the biggest news story, most missed star and best villain categories thanks to his posthumous hit film "The Dark Knight." on 2009-01-02 04:45:10
Robert Pattinson Sticks Up for Heath Ledger
Taking offense to a rude comic’s jokes, Robert Pattinson took a stand at the No on H8 show at The Improv in Hollywood a few weeks back.
According to an Us Weekly report, the 22-year-old teen heartthrob booed a comedian who said, “Her on 2008-12-31 04:50:29
Dark Knight Claims Top Movie Website's Best Film of 2008
Dark Knight Claims Top Movie Website's Best Film of 2008... Batman sequel the Dark Knight has topped the 2008 Best Film list on influential movie news website Moviehole.net's end-of-year review. The film, starring Heath Ledger and Christian Bale, has beat on 2008-12-31 04:48:48
Critics' Awards acting winners
Award Central: Multiple kudos for Cruz, Hawkins and Ledger -- Compilation of 2008 critic's award winners in the actor and actress categories. Winners include Sean Penn ("Milk"), Heath Ledger ("The Dark Knight"), Sally Hawkins ("Happy-Go-Lucky") and Penelo on 2008-12-31 04:48:00
Ridiculous Movie Moments of 2008
So there may have been some really great cinema moments this year: everything about Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight, Marion Cotillard as Edith Piaf, Robert Downey Jr is Iron Man and The Rolling Stones taking to the stage in Shine A Light. However there ha on 2008-12-27 04:46:48
2008: A Great Year for Tina Fey
Talented comedienne and writer, Tina Fey was named the Associated Press' Entertainer of the Year. Tina was selected as the performer that had the greatest impact on culture and entertainment in 2008 as voted by broadcast producers and newspaper edito on 2008-12-25 04:47:00
Heath Ledger for Best Actor Prize award
Heath Ledger is heading competition for the Best Actor Prize award at the London Critics’ Circle Film Awards 2009. Sean Penn is also nominated for his role in ‘Milk’, as are Mickey Rourke for ‘The Wrestler’, Josh Brolin for his role as George W. Bush in on 2008-12-20 04:49:39
THE fuss being created about who will accept Heath Ledger's Golden Globe award posthumously should he win for his role as the Joker has been sorted. on 2008-12-18 04:49:00
Heath's Baby Mama Won't Thank the Academy
Filed under: Heath Ledger Cross Michelle Williams off the list of people who will accept awards on behalf of Heath Ledger if/when he cleans up during awards season.A rep for Williams tells TMZ, "No discussions have been made for Michelle to accept nor are on 2008-12-16 04:52:38
Aussie Politicians Backtrack on Ledger Theatre Tribute
The decision to name a new performing arts centre in Perth, Australia after tragic actor Heath Ledger has been overturned in favour of a more diverse title. Former Western Australia Premier Alan Carpenter announced earlier this year (Jul08) that a new dra on 2008-12-15 04:48:14
Julia Stiles Remembers Heath Ledger
"There are a lot of people who miss him," the star says of working with the late actor. With the one year anniversary of Heath Ledger's death just weeks away, many stars who worked with the late actor are still grieving his sudden passing.At the on 2008-12-13 04:51:15
Terrence Howard: 'Ledger Should Win Golden Globe'
Movie star Terrence Howard insists tragic actor Heath Ledger should win a Golden Globe Award, no matter what, in January (09). Ledger was nominated for a Best Supporting Actor prize on Thursday (11Dec08) for his portrayal of The Joker in The Dark Knight - on 2008-12-12 04:49:27
'Button,' 'Frost,' 'Doubt' Grab 5 Globe Noms
Heath Ledger received a supporting actor nod for "The Dark Knight." on 2008-12-12 04:45:18
Ledger Snags Golden Globe Nom
Heath Ledger got a posthumous nomination for a Golden Globe award when the nominees were announced Thursday morning in Los Angeles. "Doubt," "Frost/Nixon" and "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" snagged the most nods.
on 2008-12-12 04:46:52
Ledger, ?Button,? ?Nixon? get Golden nods
?The Curious Case of Benjamin Button? and ?Frost/Nixon? led the Golden Globes on Thursday with five nominations each, while Heath Ledger received a nomination for best supporting actor for this role in "The Dark Knight." on 2008-12-12 04:47:06
Surprises, snubs at Golden Globe nominations
The nominations for the 66th annual Golden Globes were announced Thursday morning. Heath Ledger earned a nod for best supporting actor for his performance in "The Dark Knight"; "Doubt's" actors all got nominated, but the film didn't.
on 2008-12-12 04:48:22
Golden high hopes dashed in Hollywood
HEATH Ledger scores Golden Globe nomination but Nicole Kidman and Cate Blanchett get snubbed. on 2008-12-12 04:48:32
Ledger's name dropped from arts complex
PERTH'S new performing arts venue in Northbridge will not be named after Perth-born actor Heath Ledger ¿ although a theatre within the centre will be. on 2008-12-12 04:48:47
Messalina wrote:
> Lili2 wrote:
> want to be best pals.
Good for them.
Rick in Oz wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/jackman-rustles-up-a-role-in-
outbac
> k-epic/20 06/06/07/1149359820125.html
> Return to Oz . Jackman will play a drover.
> Garry Maddox Film Reporter
> June 8, 2006
> Oz has signed up for the director Baz Luhrmann's outback epic due
> to shoot in northern Australia early next year.
> Nicole Kidman, who will be an English aristocrat who takes over a
> cattle station the size of Belgium before World War II.
> drives 2000 cattle across country only to run into the Japanese
> bombing of Darwin in the as-yet-untitled film.
> dark rival for the heroine's love and land" - until Crowe's
> departure. He has claimed the Hollywood studio 20th Century Fox
> "moved on" after demanding he waive approval.
> was already committed to Phillip Noyce's Dirt Music, also shooting
> early next year.
> American entertainment trade papers that Ledger was still a chance
> for Jackman's former role in a film he has likened to Gone With
> The Wind in terms of its epic scale.
> into place nicely with Hugh," he told Variety. "He's a
> tremendously strong choice."
> as starring in The Boy From Oz in August, he has The Fountain,
> Scoop and The Prestige heading for cinemas.
> Away.
> Australia.
>
Yay! I'm glad he finally listened to me.
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/wintons-coastal-tale-is-not-kidman-country/2
006/06/02/1148956542339.html
Winton's coastal tale is not Kidman country
... Phillip Noyce has cast Heath Ledger'>Heath Ledger and Rachel Weisz in his adaptation
of Tim Winton's novel.
Garry Maddox Film Reporter
June 3, 2006
NICOLE KIDMAN is out and Heath Ledger'>Heath Ledger is in.
The director Phillip Noyce announced the cast yesterday for a film of Tim
Winton's award-winning novel Dirt Music, which he plans to shoot on the
coast outside Perth and the Kimberley early next year.
While never formally attached, Kidman had been interested in starring in the
romantic drama for several years. But when the was finally ready,
Noyce said the Oscar-winner was already committed to the director Baz
Luhrmann's next film.
The role - a woman who falls for an outcast musician in a remote coastal
town - has gone to the English actress Rachel Weisz, who won her own Oscar
for The Constant Gardener this year.
Noyce, who is finishing the apartheid-era thriller Catch a Fire in Sydney,
joked that Weisz would make "an ethnographic study" before filming so she
could play an Australian.
"We were looking for a particular dynamic," he said. "Rachel was the one who
most seemed to occupy that character's space."
The director of Newsfront, Patriot Games and Rabbit-Proof Fence said Winton
had helped the writers Justin Monjo and Pip Karmel adapt the novel for the
film, which has a budget of more than $20 million.
"It really does capture not only very typical relationships and characters,
all of whom I felt I've known for decades even though I'm an east coaster,
it also captures the Australian relationship with the landscape - the bush
and the sea."
Ledger had shown in Brokeback Mountain and Candy how well he could play a
fragile character. He had already asked for the songs he needed to play on
guitar and sing in Dirt Music.
"I was surprised when he read the by the way he responded to it. He
was so drawn to the character. That's all he wanted to talk about - what he
was feeling, how much he knew him or didn't know him."
Noyce said he knew nothing about reports that Ledger had been offered a role
replacing Russell Crowe in Luhrmann's film, which is also scheduled to shoot
in the Kimberley next year. He denied a rumour that Crowe was attached to
Dirt Music at one stage.
"If they're filming around the same time, no doubt there'll be one or two
outback airports that will be quite busy."
eatwelbwel@aol.com wrote:
> Lili2 wrote:
Agreed with you on that point. She's already done the older
woman/younger man film with Ewan McGregor. At this point in her
career, she'd be stupid to do a film with Ledger. Wasn't the reason
for this film in the first place to have Nicole and Russell act
together in the same film. Replacing Crow is a loss for the entire
project, but he become such an insufferable prima donna. Fat boy
needs a reality check about his star power.
Puzzla wrote:
> "Lili2" wrote in message
> news:1148969771.585103.101480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> started acting in the first place. Get me the 'old' Russell, and tell the
> 'new' jerk to take a hike.
> Puzz
There's nothing out of the ordinary for any decent actor to get
approval. Actors don't develope reputations for doing good movies
without making sure that the movie they're about to do has a good
. Although he already did say he liked this one. Apparently
it's been undergoing rewrites for whatever reason. The good 'old'
Russell has always been *very* picky about choosing his s.
He's also had input on films like Gladiator, Beautiful Mind and
Master and Commander, all of which got Oscar noms, so his input has a
pretty good track record.
Besides, they should remember the words of Chris Rock:
"I think all period pieces should star Russell Crowe. If you're doing a
movie about the past, you best get Russell's ass. I don't care if
you making a movie about three weeks ago, you need to get Russell
Crowe."
And he allegedly still wants to do this and they would turn him away?
Baz should go and watch Four Feathers and Ned Kelly and then watch
Gladiator and Master and Commander before making his decision.
And yeah, they'll probably end up recasting Nicole and go younger, but
I suspect the real reason is they want to go cheaper. It deserves to
bomb.
--
Lili2 wrote:
> NY POST...PAGE 6
> still-untitled Baz Luhrmann movie? The hot-tempered Oscar winner
> demanded approval for the love story with Nicole Kidman set in
> the Australian outback prior to the Japanese bombardment of Darwin in
> 1942. The producers told Luhrmann to find another actor, and the
> director met several times with fellow Aussie Ledger. "Baz liked him
> and offered him the movie," said one source. "Then Crowe came back to
> Luhrmann and said he'd forego approval and wanted to do the
> movie, but they told him it was too late - to buzz off." Crowe's flack
> had no comment.
But Heath with Nicole? Not unless it's a Demi/Ashton kind of romance.
"Lili2" wrote in message
news:1148969771.585103.101480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> NY POST...PAGE 6
> still-untitled Baz Luhrmann movie? The hot-tempered Oscar winner
> demanded approval for the love story with Nicole Kidman set in
> the Australian outback prior to the Japanese bombardment of Darwin in
> 1942. The producers told Luhrmann to find another actor, and the
> director met several times with fellow Aussie Ledger. "Baz liked him
> and offered him the movie," said one source. "Then Crowe came back to
> Luhrmann and said he'd forego approval and wanted to do the
> movie, but they told him it was too late - to buzz off." Crowe's flack
> had no comment.
>
LMAO!! if true. Yet another nail in his coffin. Hope he remembers why he
started acting in the first place. Get me the 'old' Russell, and tell the
'new' jerk to take a hike.
Puzz
NY POST...PAGE 6
THE reason Russell Crowe was replaced by Heath Ledger in the
still-untitled Baz Luhrmann movie? The hot-tempered Oscar winner
demanded approval for the love story with Nicole Kidman set in
the Australian outback prior to the Japanese bombardment of Darwin in
1942. The producers told Luhrmann to find another actor, and the
director met several times with fellow Aussie Ledger. "Baz liked him
and offered him the movie," said one source. "Then Crowe came back to
Luhrmann and said he'd forego approval and wanted to do the
movie, but they told him it was too late - to buzz off." Crowe's flack
had no comment.
Candy man: an author's journey from page to screen
Creative minds . writer Luke Davies and director Neil Armfield tell a tale
of addiction.
May 4, 2006
Luke Davies tells Garry Maddox about life on the set of his first film.
TWO young lovers, played by Heath Ledger'>Heath Ledger and Abbie Cornish, whirl on a Luna
Park ride. In the early days of a relationship, they are giddy with passion
and possibility. But when she shares his taste for heroin, the lovers take a
darker and more confronting ride.
For the poet, novelist and now screenwriter Luke Davies, watching the new
Australian film Candy has inspired extraordinary emotions.
"I love watching it," he says.
"I have moments of being distressed, in tears, traumatised but nonetheless
totally gripped. And almost side by side are these moments of exquisite joy
at the actual sense of achievement - 'Oh my God, I wrote this novel and it
got published and it got adapted and the film got made'."
Davies has a unique relationship to the film. It is based on his brilliantly
evocative and tender novel that fictionalises his experiences on heroin over
the best part of a decade. The worst years were from age 22 to 28.
"But to get to things being bad by 22, you're starting to wind up at 19, 20,
21 into messy territory," he says.
Davies collaborated with the famed theatre director Neil Armfield on the
screenplay, has a cameo on screen as a cheerful milkman and was on set
filming a "making of" documentary that has been boiled down from 45 hours of
footage to five so far. It centres on the writer's anxiety at letting go and
the odd-couple relationship between writer and director.
After first showing at the Berlin Film Festival, Candy premiered in Sydney
this week before its release later this month. It also stars Geoffrey Rush
as a gay junkie chemist and Noni Hazlehurst and Tony Martin as the
distressed parents of Cornish's character, Candy.
Speaking in a Newtown cafe - all lounge chairs, groovy decor and thumping
music - Davies says he is "bemused, bewildered and thrilled that this thing
has grown out of a couple of fragments of prose that I wrote 10 years ago".
The collaboration on the screenplay started in 1999. Davies often typed
while Armfield talked and acted through his vision for the film.
"He was like the Queen of Sheba," says Davies. "He was so often horizontal.
He's got this little place at Patonga, this little holiday shack, and he'd
lie there and I was like the amanuensis."
The big challenge was expanding a first-person novel, a passionate and
confronting romance that centres on the daily struggle to make a dollar,
shoot up and intermittently kick the habit, into a film.
"The book is essentially a completely claustrophobic interior monologue in
which, in a sense, even the title is ironic and the character Candy is a
two-dimensional approximation of the narrator's desires, obsessions and his
inability to see the truth at any deep level," says Davies. "The focus had
to shift around from inside his eyes to the two of them."
That meant including Candy's parents, expanding a minor character when Rush
joined the cast and allowing one scene to represent each stage - drying out,
for example - rather than repeating events from the novel.
Davies says he learnt how amazing actors are during filming.
"We spent years fretting about really important lines of dialogue that
carried information that got you from one place to another. It was, 'We've
got to find a way of expressing this, there's no way we can lose that', and
we lost that because Heath Ledger'>Heath Ledger would do something with a twist of his
face or a glance of his eye.
"That's why actors are so great and why they earn so much money. They take
away the anxious necessity to find the right words."
While working on the screenplay, Davies anxiously watched every new film
dealing with addiction.
"Every one that came along was like, 'Oh my God, we're never going to get
our film made because no one will finance it'. Leaving Las Vegas shits me -
it's just a really bad cliched prostitute-with-a-heart-of-gold film. Requiem
for a Dream shits me even more - it's all fireworks and no substance.
"Trainspotting I loved, but it doesn't impinge on our territory. But Jesus'
Son is the film that I really like. As an ex-user, it came the closest to
any film I've seen, perhaps with the exception of Panic in Needle Park, the
early '70s Al Pacino one, that actually gets the relationship [between the
couple] right to some extent."
Davies is convinced viewers will be knocked out by the film despite its dark
and troubling content.
"I'm the kind of cinema-goer who doesn't mind distressing cinema. What I
care about is good cinema. I don't care if it's light comedy, dark or
whatever. The experience of watching great cinema - great art - is life
enriching and spiritually uplifting no matter whether it's about as
difficult as it gets, like Breaking the Waves, or as light as it gets, like
Jerry Maguire, Election or Toy Story."
Having had a taste of film-making, Davies wants to resume his teenage
ambition to write and direct.
"At about 15 years old, I got my dad to give me an AFI [Australian Film
Institute] membership for my birthday. I was a weird kid. It wasn't until I
saw Aguirre: The Wrath of God at 16 that my whole world changed. The
obsession with that was equal to the obsession with writing."
He is making a short film as a precursor to a low-budget thriller.
"Being the writer is merely control freak level two. You've got to get to
control freak level one."
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:11:12 -0700, William George Ferguson
wrote:
Gosh can we think of another source for naming a child "Indiana" than
geography? If we try real hard?
or even into Grandmother's attic. (Jude Law
>They establish a thesis, show good examples to support it, and then attempt
>to force bad examples to fit it. Neither Elizah nor Matilda are all that
>uncommon and out of the norm for names.
And Iris isn't at all antiquated. There are plenty of people named
Iris. As for Charles Ezekial...somehow I think Charlie won't find
people commenting much.
Dana Carpender wrote:
> William George Ferguson wrote:
> I think they're fine names.
> be Philippa Jane. My grandmother was Philippa, and my mother is Jane,
> and my greatgrandmother was Philippa Jane, so it's a family thing. She
> can be Pippa (likely) or Flip or PJ, if she likes. But there's a
> difference between using a name that's simply not currently in fashion,
> and making up a name.
>
I've often thought making up a name, along with "euneek" spellings,
also deprives the child of being able to assert their own indi 'long
about age 14, by changing Ys to Is (or the other way around) or calling
oneself "Fairy" when one gets to college and so on, although I suppose
one could still do so.
I know someone who gave each of her seven kids a normal and an offbeat
name. Some of the kids (now in their 40s to 60s) go by the normal name,
some by the offbeat name, and several have changed to a name provided
by their guru.
Okay, I suppose it matters not what you name your kid, the kid is going
do whatever it wants anyway.
V.
--
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William George Ferguson wrote:
> "Joe Gillis" wrote:
> And this highlights a trap all such articles as this end up falling into.
> They establish a thesis, show good examples to support it, and then attempt
> to force bad examples to fit it. Neither Elizah nor Matilda are all that
> uncommon and out of the norm for names.
I think they're fine names.
For that matter, we're talking about adopting, and if we do, a girl will
be Philippa Jane. My grandmother was Philippa, and my mother is Jane,
and my greatgrandmother was Philippa Jane, so it's a family thing. She
can be Pippa (likely) or Flip or PJ, if she likes. But there's a
difference between using a name that's simply not currently in fashion,
and making up a name.
Dana
"Joe Gillis" wrote:
>Why Stars Name Babies Moxie, Moses and Apple
>Published: April 16, 2006
[snip]
>Just as Frank Zappa'>Frank Zappa proved himself the classic hippie prankster by
>naming his children Moon Unit and Dweezil in the 1960's,
You know, if I were Ahmet Rodan and Diva Muffin, I might feel a little
marginalized here. Is he saying their names are normal?
And if he thinks Frank Zappa'>Frank Zappa was a hippie, he really hasn't done his
homework.
[snip]
>But as regular people - the sort who wait in line at restaurants and
>pay for their own clothing - try to catch up, the stars are pushed
>further into the realms of obscure names, in an effort to stay ahead of
>this particular fashion curve. So stars troll deeper into the Old
>Testament for name ideas (both Bono and Wynonna Judd have an Elijah,
>and Cynthia Nixon has a Charles Ezekiel), into world geography (David
>and Victoria Beckham have a Brooklyn, and Summer Phoenix and Casey
>Affleck have an Indiana) or even into Grandmother's attic. (Jude Law
>dusted off the name Iris for his daughter, and Heath Ledger and
>Michelle Williams exhumed the name Matilda for their first child last
>fall.)
And this highlights a trap all such articles as this end up falling into.
They establish a thesis, show good examples to support it, and then attempt
to force bad examples to fit it. Neither Elizah nor Matilda are all that
uncommon and out of the norm for names.
[snip - what horrible things stars are doing to kids by naming them Sue]
>Other psychologists, however, believe fears for the child's well-being
>are overblown. If, for example, Harvey Keitel's son, born in 2004,
>feels a bit conspicuous being named Roman, he will at least have
>company. Both Cate Blanchett and Debra Messing named sons Roman that
>year.
>discuss in therapy, said Dr. Berman, who said she has counseled
>several: "With kids of celebrities, in all honesty, the other issues
>are so big this one pales in comparison."
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every square inch of your ass kicked."
- Willow Rosenberg
LindaY wrote:
> folks are going back to old traditional names. It's hard to believe
> for some folks, but at one time "Bertha" was a very popular name and
> considered to be very pretty.
> all that uncommon even 100 years ago. Children of both sexes were
> given Biblical names, including boys who were given ones like
> Hezekiah, Adirondam, etc. And we've all read about the Puritans who
> named their children Thankful and Patience and Godspeed. It's
> whatever fashionable at the time.
Bertha ceased to be pretty when they named cartoon hippos Bertha. Now
its a fat girls name.
Mildred is just FUG!
I LOVE Ester though.
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> 'Waltzing Matilda' is probably the most famous of all Aussie poems -
> written by Banjo Paterson :-)
It's a very old-fashioned name; my grandmother was named Matilda. Some
folks are going back to old traditional names. It's hard to believe for
some folks, but at one time "Bertha" was a very popular name and
considered to be very pretty.
If you read older books, you will see that "unusual" names were not all
that uncommon even 100 years ago. Children of both sexes were given
Biblical names, including boys who were given ones like Hezekiah,
Adirondam, etc. And we've all read about the Puritans who named their
children Thankful and Patience and Godspeed. It's whatever fashionable
at the time.
Linda
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:11:30 +1000, in alt.gossip.celebrities, sorry@no.email.com (Old
Joe) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Joe Gillis wrote:
...
... [most of original article snipped]
...
... > or Banjo, the inspiration of the "Six Feet Under" star Rachel Griffiths
...
... She's an Aussie and Banjo Paterson was a popular Aussie poet. Her other
... kid is called Adelaide which follows the style of naming after places.
...
...
... > Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams exhumed the name Matilda for their
... > first child last fall.
...
... 'Waltzing Matilda' is probably the most famous of all Aussie poems -
... written by Banjo Paterson :-)
Henry II Plantagenet's mother was called Matilda. I always thought it was a Medieval
name...
What crap...I've known many people named Moses.
And I adore the name Apple. Some people just like unique names. I was
going to name my daugher, Rhiannon or Fresa...I ended up with a much
more common name but those two names were front runners for a time.
Joe Gillis wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/16/fashion/sundaystyles/16NAMES.html?ex=1145332800&en=3f2a5b34a3ecd510&ei=5087%0A
> Published: April 16, 2006
> consider that if Henry Fonda were alive and having children today, it
> would seem as likely for him to name his daughter, say, Hanoi, as
> simply to call her Jane.
> Skip to next paragraph
> John Sciulli/WireImage.com
> mother, Beth Riesgraf.
> Jamie Tregidgo/WireImage.com
> his children out among the Hollywood elite equipped with ordinary names
> like Michael, Eric, Joel and Peter, as Kirk Douglas once did.
> her husband, Chris Martin, the frontman of the band Coldplay, named
> their newborn son Moses. It was an unlikely enough name for a baby boy
> born in 2006, but perhaps less startling than the much discussed (and
> mocked) handle his sister, Apple, born two years ago, will carry
> through life.
> anymore. The director Peter Farrelly plucked that very name for his
> daughter before Apple Martin came along. Even that name seems drab
> compared with Hollywood baby names like Pilot Inspektor, cooked up by
> Jason Lee, the star of "My Name Is Earl," or Banjo, the inspiration of
> the "Six Feet Under" star Rachel Griffiths, or Moxie CrimeFighter, a
> name chosen last year by the comedian and magician Penn Jillette for
> his daughter.
> names as another means for the attention-hungry to grab headlines. But
> psychologists and others who have worked with high-profile performers
> say that the naming of children can function as a window into a psyche.
> Perhaps subconsciously, they say, stars seize the opportunity of
> parenthood to express their obsessions, ambitions and inner quirks in a
> way that is, for a change, uned and not stage-managed by
> publicists.
> objectives when he and his wife, Emily, gave their daughter her highly
> individual name.
> name," Mr. Jillette said by e-mail, adding, " 'Moxie' is a name that
> was created by an American for the first national soft drink and then
> went on to mean 'chutzpah,' and that's nice."
> the losers named Dave that think having an unusual name is bad, and who
> cares what they think. They're named Dave."
> Paltrow said in an interview with Oprah Winfrey in 2004. "And I just
> thought it sounded so lovely and clean." ("Moses" meanwhile is a song
> that Mr. Martin wrote for Ms. Paltrow in 2003.)
> like Karen and Joseph for fancier ones like Madison and Caleb, movie
> stars seem compelled to push the baby naming further. The names may be
> merely distinctive (say, Maddox, Angelina Jolie's Cambodian-born
> adopted son) or bizarre, like Makena'lei Gordon, Helen Hunt's daughter,
> inspired by a place name in Hawaii. Celebrities may not so subtly be
> saying that for them ordinary rules need not apply.
> can sometimes function as the equivalent of a royal title, a way for a
> privileged caste to bestow the power of its legacy on future
> generations.
> is special and different,' " said Jenn Berman, a clinical psychologist
> in Beverly Hills, who has worked with actors. "It's unconscious, but
> they think, 'We're a creative family, you have the potential to be
> creative, so here, I bestow you with the name 'Joaquin,' " Dr. Berman
> said.
> assumptions, defy conventions and push the frontiers of the possible.
> To settle for a tedious name for the child would almost be a form of
> spiritual surrender, said Stuart Fischoff, a psychologist, who has also
> worked with Hollywood clients.
> fear," Dr. Fischoff said. "It would be very embarrassing for people to
> think of them as normal."
> Perkins named his sons Osgood
> appeared in several movies, notably the 1932 version of SCARFACE.
> Paltrow, the daughter of the actress Blythe Danner and the director and
> producer Bruce Paltrow, is named Gwyneth, after all.
> for stars to come up with creative names for their children has grown
> in recent years, particularly as Hollywood members of Generations X and
> Y have moved into their peak years of child rearing, carrying with them
> their generation's taste for obscure pop cultural references,
> iconoclasm and smirky irony.
> naming his children Moon Unit and Dweezil in the 1960's, the actress
> Shannyn Sossamon, 26, established herself as a proud product of her
> times by naming her son, born in 2003, Audio Science.
> celebrity, you are going to have to work that much harder to set
> yourself apart as a person with a specialized knowledge or a rarefied
> taste," said Pamela Redmond Satran, who has written baby-name books
> with Linda Rosenkrantz, including "Beyond Jennifer and Jason" (St.
> Martin's). She said a competitive impulse among stars seems to account
> for the recent bonanza of unlikely baby names.
> "Anyone can be thin. The famous have to be thinner."
> coincidence that the name Ryder, which was the 901st most popular boy's
> name in the country in 2001, according to Social Security
> Administration statistics, jumped to 341 in 2004, the year Kate Hudson
> and Chris Robinson chose it for their newborn son.
> pay for their own clothing - try to catch up, the stars are pushed
> further into the realms of obscure names, in an effort to stay ahead of
> this particular fashion curve. So stars troll deeper into the Old
> Testament for name ideas (both Bono and Wynonna Judd have an Elijah,
> and Cynthia Nixon has a Charles Ezekiel), into world geography (David
> and Victoria Beckham have a Brooklyn, and Summer Phoenix and Casey
> Affleck have an Indiana) or even into Grandmother's attic. (Jude Law
> dusted off the name Iris for his daughter, and Heath Ledger and
> Michelle Williams exhumed the name Matilda for their first child last
> fall.)
> children amounts to simple narcissism by the parents, and the resulting
> status comes at the child's expense. The children, after all, are the
> ones who will have to raise their hands every time a teacher calls out
> "Coco" or "Eulala."
> psychologist in Los Angeles, who has had actors on his patient roster.
> "The child is a part of them, not an individual. It's an appendage."
> and Angelina Jolie are expecting has already been a cover subject for
> magazines.
> are overblown. If, for example, Harvey Keitel's son, born in 2004,
> feels a bit conspicuous being named Roman, he will at least have
> company. Both Cate Blanchett and Debra Messing named sons Roman that
> year.
> discuss in therapy, said Dr. Berman, who said she has counseled
> several: "With kids of celebrities, in all honesty, the other issues
> are so big this one pales in comparison."
Joe Gillis wrote:
[most of original article snipped]
> or Banjo, the inspiration of the "Six Feet Under" star Rachel Griffiths
She's an Aussie and Banjo Paterson was a popular Aussie poet. Her other
kid is called Adelaide which follows the style of naming after places.
> Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams exhumed the name Matilda for their
> first child last fall.
'Waltzing Matilda' is probably the most famous of all Aussie poems -
written by Banjo Paterson :-)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/16/fashion/sundaystyles/16NAMES.html?ex=1145332800&en=3f2a5b34a3ecd510&ei=5087%0A
Why Stars Name Babies Moxie, Moses and Apple
By ALEX WILLIAMS
Published: April 16, 2006
IT'S a measure of what we have come to expect from celebrities to
consider that if Henry Fonda were alive and having children today, it
would seem as likely for him to name his daughter, say, Hanoi, as
simply to call her Jane.
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John Sciulli/WireImage.com
Pilot Inspektor Riesgraf-Lee with his father, Jason Lee, and his
mother, Beth Riesgraf.
Jamie Tregidgo/WireImage.com
Gwyneth Paltrow and her first-born, Apple Martin.
It seems almost unimaginable for any 21st-century movie star to send
his children out among the Hollywood elite equipped with ordinary names
like Michael, Eric, Joel and Peter, as Kirk Douglas once did.
This point was driven home again last week, when Gwyneth Paltrow and
her husband, Chris Martin, the frontman of the band Coldplay, named
their newborn son Moses. It was an unlikely enough name for a baby boy
born in 2006, but perhaps less startling than the much discussed (and
mocked) handle his sister, Apple, born two years ago, will carry
through life.
Not that a name like Apple Martin stands out among celebrity children
anymore. The director Peter Farrelly plucked that very name for his
daughter before Apple Martin came along. Even that name seems drab
compared with Hollywood baby names like Pilot Inspektor, cooked up by
Jason Lee, the star of "My Name Is Earl," or Banjo, the inspiration of
the "Six Feet Under" star Rachel Griffiths, or Moxie CrimeFighter, a
name chosen last year by the comedian and magician Penn Jillette for
his daughter.
Skeptics scoff at the mad rush by stars to come up with exotic baby
names as another means for the attention-hungry to grab headlines. But
psychologists and others who have worked with high-profile performers
say that the naming of children can function as a window into a psyche.
Perhaps subconsciously, they say, stars seize the opportunity of
parenthood to express their obsessions, ambitions and inner quirks in a
way that is, for a change, uned and not stage-managed by
publicists.
Mr. Jillette, for example, managed to satisfy a number of interests and
objectives when he and his wife, Emily, gave their daughter her highly
individual name.
"You're likely to be the only one in any normal-size group with that
name," Mr. Jillette said by e-mail, adding, " 'Moxie' is a name that
was created by an American for the first national soft drink and then
went on to mean 'chutzpah,' and that's nice."
Besides, Moxie CrimeFighter fits right into the creative world.
"Everyone I know with an unusual name loves it," he wrote. "It's only
the losers named Dave that think having an unusual name is bad, and who
cares what they think. They're named Dave."
Not all performers present their decisions in such terms.
"Apples are so sweet, and they're wholesome, and it's biblical," Ms.
Paltrow said in an interview with Oprah Winfrey in 2004. "And I just
thought it sounded so lovely and clean." ("Moses" meanwhile is a song
that Mr. Martin wrote for Ms. Paltrow in 2003.)
But while middle-class parents increasingly trade in standard names
like Karen and Joseph for fancier ones like Madison and Caleb, movie
stars seem compelled to push the baby naming further. The names may be
merely distinctive (say, Maddox, Angelina Jolie's Cambodian-born
adopted son) or bizarre, like Makena'lei Gordon, Helen Hunt's daughter,
inspired by a place name in Hawaii. Celebrities may not so subtly be
saying that for them ordinary rules need not apply.
If celebrities are the new American aristocracy, the exotic baby name
can sometimes function as the equivalent of a royal title, a way for a
privileged caste to bestow the power of its legacy on future
generations.
"There's a sense of 'I'm special, I'm different, and therefore my child
is special and different,' " said Jenn Berman, a clinical psychologist
in Beverly Hills, who has worked with actors. "It's unconscious, but
they think, 'We're a creative family, you have the potential to be
creative, so here, I bestow you with the name 'Joaquin,' " Dr. Berman
said.
As artists, actors often consider it their duty to shake up
assumptions, defy conventions and push the frontiers of the possible.
To settle for a tedious name for the child would almost be a form of
spiritual surrender, said Stuart Fischoff, a psychologist, who has also
worked with Hollywood clients.
"They're expressing their creativity, and they're also expressing their
fear," Dr. Fischoff said. "It would be very embarrassing for people to
think of them as normal."
The unusual celebrity baby name is not new. Decades ago, Anthony
Perkins named his sons Osgood
[Faulty research here -- Osgood Perkins was Anthony's father. He
appeared in several movies, notably the 1932 version of SCARFACE.
Back to the article]
and Elvis, and Marlon Brando named his daughter Cheyenne. And Ms.
Paltrow, the daughter of the actress Blythe Danner and the director and
producer Bruce Paltrow, is named Gwyneth, after all.
But those who track the popularity of baby names say that the pressure
for stars to come up with creative names for their children has grown
in recent years, particularly as Hollywood members of Generations X and
Y have moved into their peak years of child rearing, carrying with them
their generation's taste for obscure pop cultural references,
iconoclasm and smirky irony.
Just as Frank Zappa proved himself the classic hippie prankster by
naming his children Moon Unit and Dweezil in the 1960's, the actress
Shannyn Sossamon, 26, established herself as a proud product of her
times by naming her son, born in 2003, Audio Science.
"A name is free, it is something that everyone has, so if you are a
celebrity, you are going to have to work that much harder to set
yourself apart as a person with a specialized knowledge or a rarefied
taste," said Pamela Redmond Satran, who has written baby-name books
with Linda Rosenkrantz, including "Beyond Jennifer and Jason" (St.
Martin's). She said a competitive impulse among stars seems to account
for the recent bonanza of unlikely baby names.
"In a weird way, it's like anorexia" in Hollywood, Ms. Satran said.
"Anyone can be thin. The famous have to be thinner."
They also have a traditional role as tastemakers. It's hardly a
coincidence that the name Ryder, which was the 901st most popular boy's
name in the country in 2001, according to Social Security
Administration statistics, jumped to 341 in 2004, the year Kate Hudson
and Chris Robinson chose it for their newborn son.
But as regular people - the sort who wait in line at restaurants and
pay for their own clothing - try to catch up, the stars are pushed
further into the realms of obscure names, in an effort to stay ahead of
this particular fashion curve. So stars troll deeper into the Old
Testament for name ideas (both Bono and Wynonna Judd have an Elijah,
and Cynthia Nixon has a Charles Ezekiel), into world geography (David
and Victoria Beckham have a Brooklyn, and Summer Phoenix and Casey
Affleck have an Indiana) or even into Grandmother's attic. (Jude Law
dusted off the name Iris for his daughter, and Heath Ledger and
Michelle Williams exhumed the name Matilda for their first child last
fall.)
Some therapists said the celebrity impulse to foist odd names on their
children amounts to simple narcissism by the parents, and the resulting
status comes at the child's expense. The children, after all, are the
ones who will have to raise their hands every time a teacher calls out
"Coco" or "Eulala."
"It's like having a mini me," said Robert R. Butterworth, a clinical
psychologist in Los Angeles, who has had actors on his patient roster.
"The child is a part of them, not an individual. It's an appendage."
The burden of celebrity falls even on the unborn. The child Brad Pitt
and Angelina Jolie are expecting has already been a cover subject for
magazines.
Other psychologists, however, believe fears for the child's well-being
are overblown. If, for example, Harvey Keitel's son, born in 2004,
feels a bit conspicuous being named Roman, he will at least have
company. Both Cate Blanchett and Debra Messing named sons Roman that
year.
Besides, the offspring of the Hollywood elite have other matters to
discuss in therapy, said Dr. Berman, who said she has counseled
several: "With kids of celebrities, in all honesty, the other issues
are so big this one pales in comparison."
"Rick in Oz" wrote in message
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> http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/attack-a-damper-on-ledger-visit/2006/04/02/1
> 143916398380.html
This is one of those subject lines that can be read in a zillion different
goofy ways!
> Heath Ledger is reconsidering plans to visit Australia for the release of
> his film Candy because of the treatment he received from paparazzi last
> time
> he was here.
Do you know when this movie's coming out? Who's playing Candy?
I hope it's good. The book was fantastic -- I hope they don't scew it up!
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